Hampshire County Council

Executive Member - Environment

15 January 2002

Traffic Regulation Order - The Harrage, Romsey

Report of the County Surveyor

Item 4

Name

Objections

Officer Comments

1.

Mr R Condall

Seefeld

The Harrage

Romsey

i.

The location of the bay is near to a busy junction, The Harrage and Cressey Road; there is also a busy social club, which is not shown on the plan. Given the road layout, the location of the proposed bay would obscure visibility for vehicles in both directions.

i.

Due to concerns expressed regarding the traffic conditions experienced in the vicinity of the advertised bay it is proposed not to progress with the scheme.

ii.

The safety of pedestrians has not been taken into account.

ii.

There is adequate footway provision on both sides of the road and therefore the safety of pedestrians is considered not to be an issue in considering the positioning of the advertised disabled parking bay.

2.

Christopher and Denise Amery

5 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Do not object to the proposed disabled bay in principle but do not agree with the location.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

Experience problems at this particular point, especially with cars emerging from Cressey Road not giving way. It was because of such factors that double yellow lines were put on this stretch of road.

ii.

See 1i. The position of the advertised bay is located at the termination of the previous 'No Waiting at Any Time' Order and it was felt that it was the closest point to the applicant's house where a relaxation of the waiting restrictions could be considered.

iii.

A better site would be in the layby near 101 The Hundred or outside 95 The Harrage. Alternatively outside 20 The Harrage, still on the double yellow lines but away from the junction.

iii.

The provision of a residential, disabled bay in the layby near the print shop would have meant the bay being empty through the majority of the day during the week as the applicant works. The print shop proprietors made it clear that, whilst they were sympathetic to the predicament of the applicant, they would object strongly to the reservation of the layby for exclusive use as a disabled bay when it would be empty through much of the day. They felt it would have a detrimental effect on the viability of their business.

iv.

Road safety could be improved by give way lines and signs on Cressey Road.

iv.

A scheme to provide give way lines and a sign at the junction of Cressey Road will be investigated.

3.

Mrs E R Christianson

14 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Strongly objects to the proposal on grounds of safety.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

Why not turn a couple of parking spaces in The Hundred into disabled places?

ii.

The provision of disabled parking bays in The Hundred would not help the applicant who lives in The Harrage.

iii.

Why buy a house without a parking space when you have a car, especially as big as a landrover.

iii.

No comment.

4.

Christopher Simpson

6 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Objects to the position of the disabled bay as the safety of cyclists is affected.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

Feels the current location, near to the junction with Cressey Road, is not a safe option and affects the sight lines for vehicles.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

Suggests that a better location would be in the layby near to the print shop, acknowledges that the print shop might object but says that it uses the space for staff parking and they should park elsewhere.

iii.

See 2iii.

5.

Heather and Michael George

10 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Object to the position of the proposed bay near to a busy junction and on a bend on grounds of safety.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

The Harrage is a cycle route and cyclists would be forced into the centre of the road.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

Suggests that two or three spaces in The Hundred be made into disabled parking and 'permit holders only' bays or alternatively the bay near the print shop.

iii.

See 2iii. The layby outside 29 The Harrage was considered to be too far for the applicant to walk.

6.

Patty Johnson

12 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Feels the proposed location of the bay will cause problems for traffic travelling in either direction.

i.

See 1i.

7.

K and J Waite

16 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Considers that the siting of the bay is extremely dangerous, especially as the existing double yellow lines were extended to make the road safer.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

Does not object to the principle of providing a disabled parking bay; feels there are more suitable locations available.

ii.

See 2ii and iii.

8.

J and R Neal

32 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

The proposed location of the bay conflicts with the existing 'No Waiting at Any Time' Order.

i.

See 1i and 2ii.

ii.

Feel the bay could impede the use of the cycle path in The Harrage.

ii.

See 1i and 2ii.

iii.

There could be a traffic hazard for vehicles entering and exiting the Comrades Club and Cressey Road, also the bend in The Harrage could be obscured.

iii.

See 1i and 2ii.

iv.

Propose two alternative locations for the disabled bay, in the layby near the print shop and the layby in the vicinity of 29 The Harrage.

iv.

See 5iii.

9.

Mr and Mrs King

57 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

The proposed disabled bay is too far from the town and its amenities to be of use.

i.

The advertised bay was intended for use as a residential disabled bay and is unlikely to be used by disabled people wanting to access the town.

Name

Objections

Officer Comments

10.

Miss M I Chandlers

29 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

The siting of the bay conflicts with the existing 'No Waiting at Any Time' and is opposite a busy junction with Cressey Road and the Comrades Club.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

A vehicle parked in the proposed location would be a hazard to adults and children using the cycle route.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

The bend is hazardous enough for people trying to exit their drives.

iii.

See 1i.

iv.

The proposed disabled bay could attract non-resident disabled drivers into The Harrage which is contrary to the Prohibition of Driving Order on the road.

iv.

It is acknowledged that a possible problem with the advertised bay could be that non-resident disabled drivers could be attracted to the road to use the bay which is contrary to the Prohibition of Driving Order in The Harrage, although it is likely that a disabled person using the proposed bay would have a legitimate reason for being in The Harrage.

v.

If the disabled bay is justified then it should be put into the existing layby or in The Hundred.

v.

See 2iii. Parking in The Hundred is at a premium and it was anticipated that there would be considerable objection to the imposition of a residential disabled bay intended for the use of a resident of The Harrage.

11.

Mr and Mrs Saunders

30 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

The proposed location of the bay is contrary to the existing 'No Waiting at Any Time'.

i.

See 2ii.

ii.

The safe use of the cycle path could be impaired.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

Vehicles entering and exiting the Comrades Club and Cressey Road could encounter hazards.

iii.

See 1i.

iv.

The location of the bay on a bend presents a hazard to traffic in The Harrage.

iv.

See 1i.

v.

Alternative sites for the bay are in the layby near the print shop and outside 99A The Hundred.

v.

See 2iii.

12.

David D'Oyly Evans

24 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

The location of the bay on a section of double yellow lines is in contravention of the very necessary 'No Waiting at Any Time' restriction.

i.

See 2ii.

ii.

The large vehicle for which the bay is intended will seriously impede visibility for vehicles coming around the bend.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

The bay, on a cycle route, would be a hazard for cyclists.

iii.

See 1i.

iv.

It would be more appropriate to put the disabled bay in one of the existing laybys so that the road is not obstructed.

iv.

See 5iii.

13.

Mr and Mrs Akerman

7 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

As residents for 30 years and both car drivers and cyclists, they consider the bend in The Harrage is one of the most dangerous in Romsey and the proposed bay will make things worse.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

Have found that cars often stray into the centre of the road and therefore cyclists will be at increased risk when pulling out around the parking bay.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

Does not object to the idea of putting the disabled bay in one of the two laybys in the street.

iii.

See 5iii.

14.

Mrs D F Schimmer

43 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

There are problems with illegal parking and speed already, an obstruction such as a disabled bay will make the current situation worse. Finds it difficult enough to turn out of The Harrage, also members of the Comrades Club do not always slow down before joining The Harrage.

i.

See 1i.

15.

Miriam Richards

53 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Strongly objects to the disabled parking bay as it is positioned on a bend in a busy road and as such it will create a hazard, especially as there is a cycle route in the road.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

Feels that one or two disabled bays might be provided in The Hundred instead.

ii.

See 10v.

16.

Mrs M Ward-Dyer

22A The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Does not feel that the proposed disabled bay is acceptable as its location is at a busy junction on a bend.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

Feels a blind spot would be created.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

The proposed disabled bay would be on the designated cycle track.

iii.

See 1i.

iv.

The applicant is a member of the Comrades Club and may therefore park his car there. He has made no application to park which has been refused as previously thought.

iv.

It is acknowledged that the applicant is a member of the Comrades Club, and although it may appear to be the most suitable option, it is not appropriate for the County Council to approach the club.

v.

A chauffeur driven car comes to collect him and he is often seen walking.

v.

No comment.

17.

Mrs M Wagnall

47 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Feels the proposed bay will create a serious traffic hazard located on a bend.

i.

See 1i and 2iv.

ii.

Is often met by oncoming cars at this point as forward visibility is not clear and drivers are keeping clear of the cycle path. Many cars also sweep across the road to the entrance of the Comrades Club and Cressey Road.

ii.

See 1i and 2iv.

iii.

The large vehicle which is owned by the applicant would cause a serious obstruction, and an additional hazard would be a cyclist swerving into the road to avoid the parked vehicle.

iii

See 1i and 2iv.

18.

Hugh Lewis

56 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Considers location of the bay to be unacceptable where there is an existing parking restriction on account of the hazard posed to moving traffic.

i.

See 1i.

ii.

As a frequent user of the road, he knows that the hazard is very real and is due mostly to traffic entering and exiting the Comrades Club. Allowing a car to park almost opposite this junction will significantly limit a driver's ability to take avoiding action should the necessity arise.

ii

See 1i.

iii.

Should there be a pressing need to provide a disabled bay then on the grounds of safety, the bay is better located in one of the laybys.

iii.

See 5iii.

19.

Frank and Ann Rispin

2 The Harrage

Romsey

i.

Feels that the consultation process is invalidated by the failure to include on the plan the entrance to the Comrades Club which is the main generator of traffic at the proposed location.

i.

The Comrade Club entrance is a private access and not a road junction and are not always shown on a map. On the basis of the objections received, the residents of The Harrage are very aware of the access and the traffic problems associated with it.

ii.

Traffic into the Comrades Club creates a hazard and a vehicle parked at the proposed spot would not help.

ii.

See 1i.

iii.

The yellow lines were put down to avoid dangerous parking at this location.

iii.

See 1i.