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Hampshire County Council South West Hampshire Transportation Panel 7 March 2002 Hamble Area Transportation Strategy Report of the County Surveyor |
Item 7 |
Contact: Karen Walton, ext 6598
1. Summary
1.1 This report brings Members up-to-date on work undertaken developing a transport strategy for the Hamble Peninsula and surrounding area. It summarises the results of the public consultation in November and December 2001 in preparation for the draft Hamble Area Transport Strategy (HATS). Members are asked to recommend that a draft strategy document be developed.
2. Background
2.1 The HATS is being developed in recognition of growing transport problems and new national policies. Following the qualitative market research undertaken by Miller Associates in summer 2001, a number of aspirations for the River Hamble area were drafted for consultation. These aspirations will form an overarching Vision for the River Hamble area to inform the development of specific plans and policies, such as a moorings plan, an estuarine management plan, a recreation and tourism strategy, a transport and access strategy and other statutory and non-statutory plans. These plans, policies and strategies will form a suite of management plans for the River Hamble and the surrounding area. HATS includes a number of transport improvement proposals under the following general headings:
(i) Traffic Management;
(ii) Parking;
(iii) Road Safety;
(iv) Cycling;
(v) Public Transport; and
(vi) School/Workplace Travel Plans.
3. Consultation
3.1 A 'targeted' consultation exercise was undertaken, seeking comments from key stakeholders and interested parties. These included business interests, transport operators and district and parish councils. A staffed public exhibition was held over three days in Hamble, and unstaffed exhibitions in Warsash, Bursledon and Netley.
3.2 Prior to the public exhibitions, letters were sent to County and District Councillors, Parish Clerks and interest groups. Advertisements were placed in local newspapers and press releases issued. Shops in Hamble, Bursledon, Netley and Warsash were asked to display posters advertising the exhibitions and information was also available on the internet (www.hants.gov.uk/hambleharbour).
3.3 Public exhibitions took place in the Hamble Memorial Hall on 15 and 16 November, and the Roy Underdown Pavilion, Hamble on 17 November. Visitors to the exhibitions were able to view plans and proposals, discuss issues and exchange views with County and Eastleigh Borough Council officers, and complete a questionnaire. These exhibitions were attended by approximately 130 people.
3.4 Unstaffed exhibitions were held in the Harbour Office Visitor Centre, Shore Road, Warsash on 28 November through to 2 December, St Paul's Church, Chamberlayne Road, Bursledon on 3 December through to 7 December, and the Reading Rooms, Portsmouth Road, Old Netley on 7 and 8 December. Again posters were displayed in local shops and a press release was issued. Questionnaires were available at the exhibitions, with 'freepost' envelopes for their return.
3.5 Presentations on the transport and harbour plans were made to the local Member, Councillor House, and Hamble Parish Council and Eastleigh Borough Council members and officers. The consultation exercise cost in the order of £12,000 excluding officer time.
3.6 The questionnaires were issued with a return date of 21 December 2001, providing a five week consultation period from the date of the first exhibition. A total of 110 questionnaires have so far been completed and returned.
4. Results
4.1 The questionnaire was designed to determine the extent of support for each option. It also enabled respondents to make additional comments. The issues have been grouped into relevant categories, as follows:
(i) general comments regarding the overall strategy;
(ii) Hamble Lane (including junction options);
(iii) public transport (including park and ride);
(iv) car parking;
(v) cycling and pedestrians; and
(vi) travel plans.
These comments are attached as an appendix.
4.2 The public consultation on the proposed strategy produced, on the whole, a very positive response. The following statements, key issues and proposals relating to individual elements of the strategy were supported by 70% or more of the consultees.
4.3 Issue A - Congestion on Hamble Lane
(i) Ease junction bottlenecks, for example at the mini-roundabout at Portsmouth Road.
(ii) Promote Green Travel Plans with major employees to reduce work trips by car.
4.4 Issue B - Parking
(i) Introduce parking restrictions to reduce indiscriminate parking.
(ii) Investigate the provision of a parking area for Hamble station.
(iii) Introduce a temporary sign system for special events or park and ride.
(iv) Implement School Travel Plans to reduce car use for the school run.
4.5 Issue C - Road Safety
(i) Introduce remedial measures for accident sites.
(ii) Implement additional pedestrian/cycle facilities.
4.6 Issue D - Bus Services
(i) Improve reliability of public transport by providing bus priority measures.
(ii) Review the need for bus links between Hamble and other towns and villages.
(iii) Improve coverage of the Tesco bus into Hamble village.
(iv) Improve bus stop facilities, including better shelters and real-time information.
(v) Improve facilities at public transport interchanges, including cycle storage, taxis and car parks.
(vi) Promote better bus integration.
4.7 Issue E - Rail Services
(i) Increase frequency on the Netley line.
(ii) Relocate bus stops closer to rail stations.
(iii) Introduce a package of station improvements, including improved waiting facilities, closed circuit television and passenger information.
(iv) Provide a parking area for Hamble station.
4.8 Issue G - Cycling
(i) Improve route recognition and signing for cyclists.
(ii) Progress implementation of a comprehensive cycle network to link with schools and transport interchanges.
(iii) Provide high quality cycle storage at key locations such as transport interchanges, schools and shops.
(iv) Improve access to rail station platforms.
(v) Improve cycle safety to reduce conflict with pedestrian and motor vehicles.
(vi) Implement School Travel Plans to reduce car use and improve safety.
4.9 The remaining elements received support from over 50% of respondents, with the exception of four. These are:
(i) Park and Ride to serve Hamble corridor.
(ii) Increase toll charges on the Itchen Bridge to reduce use of Portsmouth Road to Southampton city centre.
(iii) Introduce higher parking charges and discourage long term parking in Hamble.
(iv) Provide a gateway feature at the approach to Hamble Village on Hamble Lane.
These issues will be re-considered prior to the drafting of the HATS.
5. Portsmouth Road/Hamble Lane Junction Options
5.1 In order to relieve southbound traffic turning right into Portsmouth Road, and to aid that travelling to Hamble, it has been suggested that this junction would benefit from some form of improvement. A feasibility study has been prepared by the County Surveyor which identifies four possible options. Respondents were invited to give support to their preferred choice of junction improvement and the following options received the stated percentage of support:
(i) Large Roundabout 34%;
(ii) Traffic Signals 29%;
(iii) Mini Roundabout 27%; and
(iv) Do Nothing 10%.
5.2 Each option has a number of benefits and disbenefits; for example, the large roundabout and traffic signals options would necessitate land take from the existing 'green' area. Also, the large roundabout, whilst facilitating right turning traffic, has very limited scope for pedestrians to cross. Traffic signals would assist with pedestrian crossing movements but can impose delays outside peak times. It is proposed that the improvements at this location will be further investigated in conjunction with other elements of the HATS strategy, rather than as a 'stand alone' junction improvement scheme, and brought forward for consideration by Members at a future meeting.
5.3 At the exhibitions a questionnaire on Harbour Authority issues was also made available. The main outcomes from the exercise were reported to the River Hamble Executive Member's Group on 30 January 2002.
5.4 Considerable work has been done on the Estuarine Management Plan during the last three years by inter-disciplinary and inter-agency working groups. Visitors to the exhibition were asked to state how strongly they agreed or disagreed with the aspirations set out. Some 84 questionnaires were returned. In addition, 50 questionnaires were sent to local businesses, river user groups and other interest groups, of which seven were returned.
5.5 It is intended to hold further public exhibitions, particularly on the Warsash side of the river, as well as other means of publicising the Vision to the local community.
5.6 A majority of respondents agreed or strongly agreed with the aspirations stated. Particular support was expressed for:
(i) openness, transparency and stakeholders' involvement in decision-making;
(ii) the safety of river users, including safe navigation;
(iii) encouraging improvement in water quality;
(iv) maintaining nature conservation interests; and
(v) effective communication of decisions.
5.7 The least support was shown for aspirations to support appropriate tourism initiatives around the Hamble and to provide improved facilities for visiting boats and crew; however, a majority of respondents did still agree with these aspirations.
5.8 As a high priority, the Harbour Authority should develop a communications strategy to ensure that local communities and interest groups are properly and accurately informed about its activities and decisions. The opportunity should also be taken to raise the profile of the Vision and the suite of plans it encompasses, and to test the assumptions it contains, within the local community and amongst other river users.
6. Funding and Implementation
6.1 An allocation of £150,000 has been added to the capital programme to begin the implementation of schemes which will come forward as part of the strategy. This is in addition to existing and future funds which may come forward as part of development proposals.
6.2 There may be the opportunity to bring forward individual elements of the developing strategy to help ameliorate existing transport concerns which were discussed within the consultation process. These may include improvements to rail stations, for example additional parking at Hamble station and improved passenger facilities. Preliminary proposals are currently being developed between the County and Borough Councils for improvements to The Square at Hamble, which will enable enhanced access to bus services, improvements to the existing car park and better pedestrian access. Improvements to The Square would also complement improvements to the High Street implemented through the County Council's Regeneration of Older Urban Areas programme in 1999. This successful scheme has greatly enhanced access to the public hard, calmed traffic movement in the conservation area and improved facilities for pedestrians. Extending these benefits into The Square is, however, dependent on developing a fully integrated approach to public transport provision, traffic management, car parking strategy and conservation area improvements.
6.3 The potential for park and ride schemes in the South West Hampshire Transportation area is being considered in another item on the agenda. This may provide a park and ride site near the Windhover roundabout for access with Southampton, which in turn could provide services onto the Hamble peninsula, either temporarily or permanently.
6.4 The development of options as part of the strategy will give opportunities for future transport improvements on the Warsash side of the river. This would be coordinated with the development of schemes through the South East Hampshire Transport Strategy, which would involve Fareham Borough Council in the development and implementation of solutions on the eastern bank of the river.
7. Conclusion
7.1 The results confirm that the respondents approve of the proposed elements of the strategy and the majority of proposals within them.
7.2 It is now intended to draft a strategy for the Hamble Area based on the results of the consultation, and proposals may then be considered with other priorities for inclusion in future transport investment programmes.
7.3 The draft strategy will be prepared in conjunction with officers from Eastleigh Borough Council, and will be presented to the next meeting of the Panel prior to going out for formal public consultation.
Recommendation
That it be a RECOMMENDATION to the Executive Member for Environment that a draft strategy document be developed.
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Hamble Area Transport Strategy | |
Comments from Questionnaires | |
Hamble Lane/Portsmouth Road (including junction options) | |
Questionnaire Number |
Comment |
6 |
Hamble Lane should be widened - as promised years ago in connection with planning consents for an airfield. |
7 |
The mini and large roundabout options would create more problems, due to the `give way to vehicles from right' requirement at a roundabout, especially vehicles leaving from the Hamble direction. The only viable option is traffic signals. There would be a strong local reaction in Old Netley if The Green is intruded upon. |
10 |
Concern was expressed when Hound Corner was discussed - but this has proved a success. Traffic lights will delay traffic going north as there are already delays at Windhover. The speed limit should be reduced in Hamble Lane and Portsmouth Road to help pedestrians in Old Netley where there have been several fatal accidents. |
24 |
Traffic on Hamble Lane cannot be increased (ie if more new houses are built) without serious detrimental effect to the quality of life of all the people living in the village. |
34 |
Access to the peninsula is a nightmare. One road is not sufficient with all the new building. A new road in and a large one-way system to improve traffic flow is needed. |
36 (2) |
Re: the junction options - there is scope for a traffic circulation pattern on existing triangular road pattern which should be considered. |
37 (4) |
Local residents require pavements both sides of Portsmouth Road from Kelvin Crescent to Hamble Lane. Additional peak time signalling should be introduced at the Satchell Lane/Hamble Lane junction. Rather than full signalisation of Windhover, better to re-open Botley Road and introduce peak time signalling at the junction with West End Road - this would also reduce Eastleigh Borough Council's (EBC) costs for removing 'fly-tipping' debris. Could also introduce peak time signalling at Portsmouth Road junction with Oakhill Bridge. |
37 (7) |
Large roundabout and signals combined. |
37 (9) |
Junction must be improved to keep traffic flow moving between Tesco and the farm shop in Hamble Lane. No right turn into Hamble Lane from Portsmouth Road. Mini-roundabout at Hamble Lane into Pound Road. No more houses in Hamble until the lane has been improved, "we live here, planners don't". |
42 |
Sort out junction first and note effect on Windhover roundabout before starting action on the latter. |
43 |
No right turn from Hamble (northbound) into Satchell Lane. Right turning traffic could easily/safely go to mini-roundabout at Hound Corner. This would improve traffic flow and ease congestion, particularly when 'caring parents' are delivering/collecting children. |
45 |
The priority must be to relieve congestion on Hamble Lane, particularly at the Portsmouth Road junction. |
64 |
Junction option 'do nothing' not compatible with easing bottleneck. |
66 |
Why not bring traffic through Grange Road, Shop Lane joining Bursledon Road, then traffic would not require use of Hamble Lane, only local traffic. |
Questionnaire Number |
Comment |
72 |
Has the County Council considered a one-way gyratory system around Pound Road, Portsmouth Road and Hamble Lane? Possibly not popular with Pound Road residents but it should ensure a smooth flow of traffic. |
74 |
Re-open northern section of Botley Road to provide alternative route to access Southampton instead of traffic using Hamble Lane/Portsmouth Road through Old Netley. |
76 |
Have any other alternatives been considered for the junction? |
77 |
Traffic lights please, roundabouts are not a very effective method of control (the problem would be transferred from the north to the south in the morning). |
80 (1) |
In order to reduce traffic levels consideration could be given to the re-opening of Botley Road. This would of course necessitate a roundabout or traffic lights on the A27 at that point. "I'm not clear, however, about the reasons for the initial closure". |
80 (2) |
Why not re-open Botley Road (linking to A27)? This would relieve traffic on Hamble Lane and Windhover roundabout and provide a direct route from Hedge End to the Itchen Bridge (via St Johns Road). It would also reduce the very high volume of traffic passing over Sundays Hill. |
80 (3) |
Widen Hamble Lane on Manor Crescent side to permit two lanes approaching Hamble and avoid bottleneck between Jurd Way roundabout and junction. No mention of re-opening Botley Road to ease congestion in Old Netley. |
80 (4) |
The re-opening of Botley Road might well reduce the congestion at the Windhover roundabout and the Hamble Lane/Portsmouth Road junction. |
89 |
Could not more traffic to Woolston be encouraged to use Botley Road? This could reduce congestion at Manor crossroads. |
153 |
At present many of the roads through Old Bursledon and Lowford are used as a rat-run during the morning and evening rush hours - "I feel consideration should be given to the junctions of Portsmouth Road, Long Lane and Church Lane with the A27, in particular the junction at 'The Crows Nest' where traffic lights would be a great help". |
155 |
Mini-roundabout at Grange Road crossroads to reduce accidents and speed. |
167 |
From Windhover roundabout to Tesco and down to mini-roundabout in Hamble Lane needs to be widened to two lanes in both directions. From mini-roundabout in Hamble Lane/Jurd Way into Lowford village along Portsmouth Road needs to be access only up to A27 junction. |
211 |
Widen road to at least three lanes from Tesco to Portsmouth Road junction, if four lanes aren't possible. Alternative two up one down at peak periods would more than alleviate the problem - a strip off the field adjoining the present road should be obtainable. |
214 |
Your absolute priority is to sort out the traffic chaos at the Portsmouth Road/Hamble Lane junction - follow that with a mini-roundabout at the Grange Road/Portsmouth Road junction. |
Questionnaire Number |
Comment |
218 |
The options for Portsmouth Road/Hamble Lane junction will not solve the traffic problem. The only way this can be improved is to reinstate the plans for an Old Netley by-pass. |
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Widen Hamble Lane so that traffic can continue in both directions in the event of roadworks. |
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Make Hamble Lane and High Street one-way and reconstruct Satchel Lane to take all traffic out. This will solve a big problem. |
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A roundabout at Portsmouth Road junction should keep traffic flowing. Traffic lights hold the traffic up and often fail, causing more accidents. Open up Lowford Hill to give a better roundabout and then a roundabout on A27/Portsmouth Road. |
Hamble Area Transport Strategy | ||
Comments from Questionnaires | ||
General Comments | ||
Questionnaire Number |
Comment | |
8 |
Concerned about increasing traffic because congestion is eased, because more congestion will be created later. Risk turning the peninsula into one large car park and motorway! Need to reduce congestion without increasing traffic. | |
11 |
Speed humps or rumble strips in Hamble High Street. | |
12 |
Hamble needs an alternative road as small accidents or roadworks completely hold up traffic. As industry increases a staggering of starting/finishing times must be encouraged. | |
24 |
Concerned how emergency services gain access to Hamble during peak rush-hour and shift changeover times. | |
31 |
Strongly support initiatives to take people out of their cars onto another mode of transport, especially for getting to and from work. | |
35 |
What about traffic, parking and other problems on the Warsash side. | |
36 (1) |
This is a fine study, congratulations, etc. However other issues include: Sunday car-boot sale which maroons the village throughout the whole day. The afternoon mass exodus from Aerostructures. The issue of the BP oil terminal and the volume of 40 ton tankers - the idea of a pipeline to serve a satellite filling station on the M27 would relieve this heavy traffic and unofficial studies of this concept has been carried out. Working from home needs to be encouraged by businesses | |
36 (2) |
Relocate BP tanker loading bays to present 'boot sale' site. | |
37 (4) |
I have used the toll bridge for 14 years despite increases in toll fees. Since | |
46 |
BP could pipe their product to a motorway terminal. | |
50 |
There are far too many people living in this part of Hampshire. Over the past 50 years local residents have been stressing the above to local councillors. Politicians of all parties have pledged to reduce house-building in this area. Despite this the population has increased well above the national average. Considerable open countryside has been lost to new housing and politicians have failed to improve the local infrastructure including transport. The A27 at rush-hour is now a nightmare. | |
56 |
There is no separation between boating people, tourists and visiting boating people - each have their own special requirements. | |
72 |
Local residents should not be discouraged from using Itchen Bridge. Increasing tolls will encourage longer car journeys into town thereby increasing emissions. If tolls must be increased a two-tier tariff with much reduced rates for locals should be considered (even cheaper than current tokens perhaps). | |
76 |
Public consultation (with suitable notice, ie in local monthly magazine) is essential. Increasing toll charges for 'local' residents is unrealistic - the alternative would be to increase pollution in the atmosphere by making these people drive 10+ miles into the city centre. | |
77 |
The charges for the Itchen Toll bridge were intended to be a method of payment for the construction of the bridge. A coercive tax is not an acceptable transport policy. "I would consider an additional levy for political ends to be a cynical abuse of authority. Although your blurb states that you are giving more choice for transport issues, it is clear that your intention is to remove the choice of the motor vehicle (at least for those on lower incomes). At the meeting in Hamble the statement was made that the previous policy of building the way out of the problem is no longer acceptable. If what had been built was adequate we would not be in this situation now. You are blaming motorists for what is a planning disaster, and we are now proposing to tax your way out of the problem. The current policy of positive obstruction to motorists causes unnecessary congestion, pollution and stress". |
80 (3) |
Most of this is Hamble yet it purports to be a study of the Hamble peninsula. Strongly object to spending money on any measures which would encourage more car journeys and undermine strategies to improve public transport, cycling and walking. |
80 (4) |
Although the public consultation states that the plan is for Hamble peninsula and river it appears this questionnaire only relates to Hamble village. |
84 |
Support upmarket development of airfield to include amenities for local people, eg fishing lake and country park/9-hole golf course. In parallel improve road access into village, particularly Satchell Lane. |
85 |
There is an urgent need to reduce traffic. The Government had the opportunity to do this when the Traffic Reduction Bill became law a couple of years ago, but chose to do NOTHING. Hampshire County Council (HCC), along with other councils, must now press them to take action, giving buses priority and with better services. We have become slaves to the car. No waiting, setting down and picking up areas must be introduced within a half mile of the four schools on the peninsula, and this must be rigidly controlled. |
127 |
The eastern side of the river is ignored again. Always the poor relation. |
132 |
Need to consider the specific requirements for people with disabilities - parking bays, surfaces, toilets, signage, loop systems. Consult with local voluntary/community groups with members who have disabilities. Questionnaire should state it is available in large print, etc on request. |
167 |
Exit road from junction 8 M27 to Windhover roundabout needs to be increased to three lanes a.s.a.p. |
175 |
A couple of years ago work was carried out to tidy-up and re-curb the access road in front of the Coronation Parade. However, the road was made narrower so it is now more difficult to park and there are fewer spaces for vehicles. There was a golden opportunity, while the work was being done, to reduce the width of the totally useless, untidy and unnecessary grass verge between the access road and Hamble Lane and so provide a little much needed additional parking space. Coronation Parade is a real asset to Hamble, it provides many of the residents with all their food and other provisions. With Tesco and similar stores on our doorstep there is a real incentive for car drivers to ignore our local shops and carry on up to Tesco. |
191 |
Reduce traffic on Windhover roundabout by re-opening the road between Bursledon Road and the A27 at the top of Botley Road. |
194 |
Have meetings with local people at their meeting places - in person and face-to- face. Let them tell you what is needed. Where is the by-pass because of tanker movements on the peninsula road? Also, more housing being built equals more traffic. Put bridge to Warsash and stop the peninsula road being a peninsula for cars only. |
197 |
Most needed crossing on Portsmouth Road for pedestrian use. Path to Woolston and Southampton on north side of road. |
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Link transport plan with area development plan - stop further residential development until alternative access to Hamble peninsula developed, otherwise transport policy will always be lagging behind access needs. |
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Ensure that third party contracts are coordinated to minimise traffic disruption. |
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Need to seriously consider need for better planning to reduce impact of encroachment of light industry and businesses moving into Hamble and potential hazard of dense low cost/high profit box-like housing. |
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Whilst acknowledging the specific traffic problems on the Hamble side of the river your plans ignore the Warsash side. Warsash problems and the views and interests of the Warsash residents should be included in your plans. |
Hamble Area Transport Strategy | ||
Comments from Questionnaires | ||
Parking Comments | ||
Questionnaire Number |
Comment | |
10 |
Marina owners should provide more on-site parking, instead of restricting it to owners only. | |
24 |
Consider residents' parking permits for village car park in The Square and charge visitors for long stays. | |
36 (1) |
The parking hot spots in Hamble village have failed to be identified. The issue of parking in Hamble cannot be resolved until we study the traffic for the whole Hamble peninsula, and this cannot be achieved until we look at the public transport system for the 'Greater Solent City'. | |
37 (1) |
If restrictions are made on main car parking it must be ensured that estate roads are not used as overflow car parks by weekend visitors to the marinas. | |
37 (2) |
As above. | |
46 |
Present restrictions not enforced, eg half-hour bay in Square occupied by residents. Parking outside Alldays causes chaos. Marinas could go for multi-storey parking. | |
47 |
Long term parking in Hamble village by yacht people needs a solution - marinas should provide more, Hamble Square parking should be restricted with perhaps some residents' permits. | |
60 |
Provide car parking facility on airfield site as close to Hamble Lane/Satchell Lane as possible so that park and walk to front is possible. | |
74 |
Park and Ride raises land issues - where would it be located? Levels of traffic and local population levels do not make it look to be viable. | |
77 |
Restricting the number of parking spaces increases tension, especially when it is clear that parking would cause neither obstruction or danger. The social consequences of such a move should also be considered. Introduction of higher charges will make people park on the roads. | |
80 (3) |
Portsmouth Road in Lowford needs attention to stop parked cars on footways. | |
124 |
On new developments, especially residential, have wider roads to provide spaces for visitors. Have at least three spaces per house with own access and egress on each property - a couple will usually have two cars and their children will acquire a car as they get older. | |
175 |
Top of Coach Road - residents park by side of road making access and exit more difficult as it effectively reduces the road to one lane. Some years ago the gas main building was moved from one side of the road to the other and rumour had it that the bank alongside where the cars park would be removed in order to provide a lay-by for residents. Sadly this never happened. There must be many ways in which small changes to the road layout in the local area could improve parking facilities at minimal cost and would have far more effect on our lives than providing a 'Gateway Feature'! | |
213 |
Why are verges being ruined by allowing cars to park on them as in Green Lane? | |
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Seriously consider opening the field to the north of NYS Boatpark as overflow car park on permanent basis. This will immediately solve the problems of parking in the village square and ease congestion in the village. The environmental impact would be minimal and be offset by the improvement in the quality of life in the village. | |
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Village car park - more of the parking bays should be set aside for the residents of Hamble and the use of the passes for parking on the quay. As an elderly resident, we have to walk down to the village post office and shop. We are unable to use the car as there is never anywhere to park, as most of the parking bays are occupied by long stay areas. | |
Hamble Area Transport Strategy | |
Comments from Questionnaires | |
Cycle Comments | |
Questionnaire Number |
Comment |
12 |
Shared facilities between pedestrians and cyclists, ie Hamble Lane footpath, all need widening in many places as there is not enough room for peds/cyclists to pass. Bicycles should be required to carry warning bells or hooters - the sudden overtaking is frightening, especially to older people. |
20 |
Insist on cyclists using cycleways where these are provided. Thus removing them from the roads in the interests of their safety. |
22 |
Cyclists need to be more aware of pedestrians when sharing pavements. |
37 (9) |
Ask that cycle safety signs are put up on Hamble Lane between Nos 86 and 108 as the householders have to cross the path to get into their drives. |
46 |
Real cycle path needed for people using the bicycle as a means of transport. |
47 |
The cycle path in Hamble Lane is inadequate - dodging around trees in unsafe particularly in poor light. To encourage cycling it is important to have a good cycle track that is not shared with pedestrians. Serious cyclists use their machines to get around quickly - to work for instance, they want to be able to travel fast, safely. The track in Hamble Lane is only designed for the weekend/leisure user. |
49 |
Off-road cycle route in Hamble Lane is dangerous, not user-friendly and not to the minimum standard. The railway bridge needs to be modified so cyclists do not have to 'dismount'. It's not good to mix cyclists with pedestrians as pedestrians insist in walking on cycle part of route. Have experienced rubbish sacks put on cycle route for collection. Also dangerous when motorists enter and exit their driveways and street furniture obstructs route. |
77 |
Cyclists need to be encouraged to use the existing cycle lane in Hamble Lane. Any changes should not be at the expense of existing road space. |
80 (3) |
The most urgent need for cyclists on Hamble Lane is hedge maintenance so that cyclists will not need to ride in the road. No mention of improving public rights of way links between parishes. |
85 |
The only cycle route is along Hamble Lane and this is pathetic! Introduce 'Quiet Lanes' starting with Satchell Lane and Slop Lane, Netley. |
122 |
No mention of access to Manor Farm Upper Hamble Country Park. Those that walk or cycle along Dodwell Lane almost commit suicide. This is a rat-run for vehicles from east of the River Hamble to access the motorway. I have had no positive response from EBC or HCC to my letters, just 'stone-walling'. There is a muddy footpath along the river, but across a broken style and muddy field. If this could be upgraded it would be a boom. Also, poor access to Victoria Country Park by cycle when coming from the Hamble Ferry. |
162 |
Cycleways already in use need to be maintained to avoid conflict with pedestrians. |
215 |
The width of the footpath between Beverley Gardens and the Manor House pub desperately needs to be increased - at present lorries overhang at high speeds. |
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Make cyclists use the costly path that was installed for them. Using the road holds up the traffic at peak times every day. |
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Find out why some cyclists do not use the existing cycle way on Hamble Lane. Do something about cycles left lying on the pavements outside Hamble shops. |
Hamble Area Transport Strategy | |
Comments from Questionnaires | |
Public Transport Comments | |
Questionnaire Number |
Comment |
37 (4) |
Re Park and Ride: Provide regular buses at a fixed rate for all users - this will benefit locals and visitors. Possible sites: Bursledon Community Centre, Pylands Community Centre and Cunningham Gardens - this can be achieved by filling in the culvert (currently used as a play area and the HSE would probably recommend that this culvert be filled in and the site levelled) Netley railway station, the Station PH and the Royal Victoria Country Park, Hamble - Roy Underdown Pavilion, The Square, Mount Pleasant Rec ground, Hamble Primary and Secondary Schools. Also, grazing land opposite Hamble Halt, the green opposite Coach Road, dev areas at Ensign Way, the field opposite Solent Meadows (used for the 'Warming Pan' sailing event) and improve the parking area next to the 'Donkey Derby Field'. |
42 |
Return to having bus conductors - buses stand and obstruct traffic longer than they are moving. Encourage railways to allow cycles on trains. |
46 |
Rail station needs to be user-friendly, ie bus from village, parking, etc. A reasonable ferry and water-taxi are badly needed. |
62 |
Improve bus services, return to bus tokens, 50% reduced fares nationally for all OAPs. |
66 |
A floating bridge would be of help in place of the ferry service. |
74 |
Re-opening the rail line to the BP terminal could only be done as part of a light rail system. I doubt if it could ever justify the cost to be viable. Improvements to local bus and rail services looks like being the most cost effective way forward. Water-based public transport would not prove to be viable except for a few weeks in the summer. |
77 |
Hamble Station is owned and operated by a private profit making company. As a tax payer I do not want to be forced to pay to improve their property. The same applies to the ferry and buses. Bus priority measures are generally at the expense of other road users. Conductors on the buses at peak times and bus pull-ins at stops would be an advantage for everyone. |
80 (4) |
The hourly train from Bursledon does not connect with the fast train to London from Southampton. |
100 |
South West Trains have an asset in the train line and stations. Please can we have a real service, ie the two trains an hour that we used to have. I understand there is a slot when the train could run but SWT manager stated recently that that won't return until 2005. Also, a linking bus system both at town end and around Netley. |
132 |
Park and ride need wheelchair-friendly buses. |
175 |
I know the current thinking among councillors and the Government is that car usage is to be discouraged and more support be given to cyclists and public transport but I think this is very unrealistic. Most people only use public transport as a last resort. It is inconvenient, slow, uncomfortable and often expensive, especially if you already own a car. It seems to me that an excessive amount of money and time is being devoted to providing facilities for a very small minority of the population to promote what most people would see as an unpopular form of transport. It would seem more sensible to find means of promoting the use of smaller, quieter electrically powered personal transport instead of making life more difficult for the car driver (who is after all in the majority and paying handsomely for the privilege) in order to make things easier for large, noisy, inefficient buses carrying very few passengers. |
194 |
Private bus company is not working. |
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Better/introduce water-taxi service Hamble-Southampton/Cowes. Improved use of water to transport people to work/shop in Southampton. Encourage reduction in motor vehicle use by improving public services, ie train link - Hamble BP/Southampton/Fareham. |
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Until there is a cohesive public transport plan that runs conveniently for local and visiting customers to the area facilities for cars must be improved or the area will become a tourist white elephant. |
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School buses would greatly reduce congestion in both Hamble and Bursledon. |
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The bus service to Southampton is inadequate, one bus an hour is not a service. More buses should be run. |
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The bus service is a disgrace in and out of Hamble for people who use it for work. You take buses off without even telling anyone so they have to wait hours before the next one comes along, especially coming from Hedge End. |
Hamble Area Transport Strategy | |
Comments from Questionnaires | |
School/Work Travel Plan Comments | |
Questionnaire Number |
Comment |
36 (1) |
During school holidays the traffic congestion in the peninsula vanishes. |
37 (5) |
The unnecessary use of cars to transport children to school has a huge impact on congestion. During school holidays the traffic moves smoothly with little or no congestion. |
74 |
School and Green Travel Plans look to be the most cost effective way forward. |
77 |
Interfering with employers is too late. Transport considerations should have been considered during the planning stages prior to granting planning permission. Speed restrictions cause delays to emergency vehicles, have the potential to damage vehicles, impede travel and cause congestion, and may affect snow clearing operations. |
Hamble Area Transport Strategy | |
Comments from Questionnaires | |
Road Safety and Traffic Calming Comments | |
Questionnaire Number |
Comment |
46 |
More signs are no good. Humps and positive slowing down measures are required. |
74 |
Traffic management looks to be the most cost effective way forward. |
191 |
Speed limits on Portsmouth Road, Old Netley reduced to 30mph supported by active cameras. |
192 |
30mph speed limit between The Plough PH and the junction with Portsmouth Road/Hamble Lane. |
193 |
Cut back hedge growth to improve visibility when exiting Beverly Gardens. |
201 |
Reduce vehicle speed to 30mph on Portsmouth Road from Hamble Lane to Woolston. Install CCTV cameras. Reduce the movement of heavy lorries from Windhover roundabout to Woolston via Hamble Lane/Portsmouth Road junction. |
203 |
Introduce 30 mph restriction from Hamble Lane junction with Portsmouth Road through Old Netley to Woolston. Also install traffic speed cameras on this route. Control number of HGVs using this route. |
216 |
I would suggest lowering the speed limit in Portsmouth Road. |
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Introduce speed cameras or paint speed limit on road between Coronation Parade and Square. |
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Need for speed bumps opposite Barclays Bank and White Hart pub. |
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Enforce existing speed limits. |