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AT A MEETING of the TRANSPORT FOR SOUTH HAMPSHIRE JOINT COMMITTEE of HAMPSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, SOUTHAMPTON CITY COUNCIL and PORTSMOUTH CITY COUNCIL held at The National Oceanography Centre, Southampton on Tuesday 8 January 2008.
PRESENT:
Hampshire County Council: Councillor M. J. Kendal - Executive Member for Environment Stuart Jarvis - Deputy Director of Environment Keith Willcox - Project Director, Transport for South Hampshire Peter Murnaghan - Manager, Transport for South Hampshire Portsmouth City Council: Councillor Alex Bentley - Executive Member for Traffic and Transportation John Slater - Head of Planning Services Paul Denyer - Principal Engineer Southampton City Council: Andy Scate - Head of Planning and Sustainability Geoff Cornford - Transport Principal Transport Planner Phil Marshall - Regional Transport Planner Paul Harwood - Highways Agency Observers: Eastleigh Borough Council: Councillor David Airey - Cabinet Member for Transport and Streetscene Duncan McVey - Head of Transportation and Engineering
Fareham Borough Council: Councillor David Swanbrow Andy Viccars - Chief Planning and Transportation Officer Gosport Borough Council: Councillor Peter Langdon New Forest District Council: Councillor Chris Treleaven Nick Hunt - Principal Engineer Richard Soper - First Hampshire and Dorset Graham Ellis - Hampshire Economic Partnership (HEP) Phil Dominey - Customer Service Project Manager, South West Trains Gavin Johns - Route Enhancements Manager, Wessex, Network Rail Stewart Smith - British Airports Association Jeremy Clarke - Portsmouth Commercial Ports Mike McDonald - Transportation Research Group, University of Southampton John Preston - Transport Research Group, University of Southampton Nick Richardson - MVA Consultancy Steve Williamson - MVA Consultancy Also Attending John Buckett - Head of Highways and Transport Policy, Hampshire County Council Julie Jarvis - Senior Transport Planner, Hampshire County Council Richard Alderson - Transport Policy Assistant, Southampton City Council |
12. PRESENTATION ON ASSEMBLING THE EVIDENCE BASE
The Committee welcomed John Hawkins, Chairman of the Prism Management
Group, West Midlands to the meeting. John explained how the West Midlands
model had evolved. A scoping study had been carried out in 2000 to design a
model for a data collection service to replace the existing model which was no
longer fit for purpose. The model was designed to support testing a wide range of
potential policies identified in the West Midlands and an illustration of the model
was displayed. The model provided considerable data and was a very
comprehensive and a powerful tool. The applications of the model were
described in some detail. One key partner was the Highways Agency who made
significant funding contributions. The data management system had a 10 year life
which was refreshed on a 5 year cycle and considered to be an investment for the
foreseeable future. John then answered a number of questions from the
Committee.
The Chairman thanked John Hawkins on behalf of the Committee for his
interesting presentation.
13. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Apologies for absence were received from Gavin Bostock, External Relations
Manager at CrossCountry, Natalie Chapman, Regional Policy Manager London,
South East and East of England for Freight Transport Association, Nick Farthing
of HEP and Andy Mak from the South East England Regional Assembly.
14. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
Councillor M. J. Kendal declared a personal interest as the Leader of New Forest
District Council.
15. CHAIRMAN'S COMMUNICATIONS
Councillor Kendal reported that the Southampton rail tunnel was planned to be
closed for two periods, over Christmas 2009 and in May 2010 with weekend
closures in between. The representatives of Network Rail and the Highways
Agency had been asked to consider this issue and to provide an update at this
meeting on their contingency planning. The alternative arrangements both on the
rail network and the highway network to cope with the existing freight flows
diverted as a result of the tunnel closure are reported in minute 19.
Councillor Kendal reported that the Government's modifications to the South East
Plan which have been expected for some time are still awaited. There is no
indication at this stage of when the Government will publish them for consultation
nor their content. It was noted that any change to the 80,000 new dwellings that
were recommended as a result of the Examination in Public would have serious
implications for transport and this item will be revisited at a future meeting.
16. MINUTES OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND MEETING HELD ON
16 OCTOBER 2007
The Committee considered the report of the Hampshire Director of Environment,
the Portsmouth Head of Planning Services and Southampton Head of Planning
and Sustainability (Item 4 in the Minute Book) which informed the Committee of
the Governance arrangements contained in the Agreement.
Matters Arising:
Minutes of the Joint Committee held on 16 October 2007 - Minute 7 - Draft Local
Transport Bill
That Resolution (b) be amended to read an `Officer' rather than a `Member'
from each of the Authorities.
17. TRANSPORT FOR SOUTH HAMPSHIRE - FINANCIAL MATTERS
The Committee considered the report of the Hampshire Director of Environment
(Item 6 in the Minute Book) providing an update on financial matters for the
Transport for South Hampshire (TfSH) for 2008/09 and proposing a change to the
financial lead authority.
RESOLVED:
That Hampshire County Council takes the financial lead role for Transport for
South Hampshire and Portsmouth City Council the responsibility for Media
Liaison and Public Relations.
18. TRANSPORT STUDIES - UPDATE
The Committee considered the report of the Hampshire Director of Environment
(Item 7 in the Minute Book). The Hampshire Project Director provided an
overview of the process for taking the results of the consultants' studies forward
and sought authority for officers to submit bids for funding, should opportunities
arise, at short notice.
The Hampshire Director of Environment reported that the transport studies
commissioned in the Summer were progressing well and nearly completed
although further work was required on the economic evaluation. He advised that
he was confident that with partners the objectives and timescale could be achieved
as all key players had the same understanding and confidence.
In response to a question from Portsmouth City Council about the information
available, the Hampshire Director of Environment explained that the necessary
traffic data would be collected once the need for a model had been established.
RESOLVED:
(a) That the progress on the transport studies and process for taking them forward
be noted.
(b) That the Hampshire Director of Environment be authorised to submit appropriate funding bids for sub-regional priority schemes when funding resources become available
19. DEVELOPMENT OF A FREIGHT STRATEGY FOR TRANSPORT FOR
SOUTH HAMPSHIRE
The Committee considered the report of the Hampshire Director of Environment
(Item 8 in the Minute Book) seeking support to develop a Freight Strategy for the
Transport for South Hampshire (TfSH) sub-region and as a parallel process, a
Freight Strategy for the County of Hampshire is being developed.
In response to a question about the closure of the railway link between
Southampton and Eastleigh, Gavin Johns from Network Rail advised that the
gauge clearance for Maritime Containers between Southampton and Reading
would involve a total of 30 structures. 2 significant structures are the tunnels at
Micheldever and Southampton. There would be a 12 week period from December
2009 to February 2010 when the service would be lower than at present and a
couple of weeks when the route would be completely closed so that the track can
be stabilised. The closure would see train services through Southampton tunnel
disrupted whilst the programme of works is completed. Single line working and
the number of trains passing through in an hour would be significantly reduced so
therefore the number of passenger trains would be reduced and the freight trains
would travel via a different route. The prospect of a freight container diverting to
the road was felt to be minimal and he hoped to maintain current levels of service.
Alternative buses would be provided if the level of service for passengers was
found to be insufficient. South West Trains would work in conjunction with
Network Rail and more details would become available in March 2008.
Paul Harwood from the Highways Agency advised that consultation would take
place with Network Rail for solutions as the project develops. He felt that any
congestion problems on the M3 Motorway were caused by the amount of
commuter traffic between Southampton and Winchester, and that there would be
no impact from freight traffic diverted from the railway.
Councillor Kendal asked that monitoring of lorries travelling in the nearside lane
of the Motorways be carried out and that there be liaison between the Highways
Agency and Stakeholders.
RESOLVED:
(a) That approval be given to commence work on the development of a Freight
Strategy covering the South Hampshire sub-region.
(b) That the draft contents list and indicative policies form the starting point for
informal consultation.
(c) That approval be given in principle for the establishment of a Transport for
South Hampshire Freight Forum to lead on the development of the Freight
Strategy and subsequent reviews.
20. PARTNERSHIP FOR URBAN SOUTH HAMPSHIRE LOCAL
DEVELOPMENT FRAMEWORKS - TRANSPORT STUDIES
The Committee considered the report of the Portsmouth Head of Planning
Services (Item 9 in the Minute Book) updating members on progress on the
transport aspects of the preparation of the Core Strategies of the Partnership for
Urban South Hampshire (PUSH) authorities Local Development Frameworks.
The Committee noted that the timetable had commenced and that a report would
be submitted to the meeting on 14 April 2008.
RESOLVED:
That the report be noted.