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AT A MEETING of the TRANSPORT FOR SOUTH HAMPSHIRE JOINT COMMITTEE
of HAMPSHIRE COUNTY COUNCIL, SOUTHAMPTON CITY COUNCIL and PORTSMOUTH CITY COUNCIL held at Portsmouth City Council, on
Monday 14 April 2008.
PRESENT:
Hampshire County Council: Councillor M. J. Kendal - Executive Member for Environment Keith Willcox - Project Director, Transport for South Hampshire Peter Murnaghan - Manager, Transport for South Hampshire Portsmouth City Council: Councillor Alex Bentley - Executive Member for Traffic and Transportation John Slater - Head of Planning Services Charles Stunell - Head of Transport and Street Management Southampton City Council: Councillor J. Baston - Cabinet Member for Planning and Sustainability Pete Brunskill - Team Leader for Transport Policy Geoff Cornford - Transport Planning Manager Richard Soper - First Hampshire and Dorset Andrew Dyer - Stagecoach South Graham Ellis - Chairman of Transport Group, Hampshire Economic Partnership Paul Robinson - Network Manager, Highways Agency Phil Dominey - Customer Service Project Manager, South West Trains Gavin Johns - Route Enhancements Manager, Wessex, Network Rail Richard Longman - Project Director, Partnership for Urban South Hampshire Neil Pearce - Senior Area Manager, South East England Development Agency James Renwick - South East England Regional Assembly Stewart Smith -Environment and Surface Access Manager, Southampton International Airport Jeremy Clarke - Assistant Harbour Master Portsmouth Commercial Port Observers: Eastleigh Borough Council: Councillor David Airey Paul Walker Fareham Borough Council: Councillor David Swanbrow Andy Viccars Gosport Borough Council: Councillor Peter Langdon David Duckett New Forest District Council: Councillor Chris Treleaven Nick Hunt Also Attending John Buckett - Head of Highways and Transport Policy, Hampshire County Council |
21. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Apologies for absence were received from Gavin Bostock, External Relations
Manager at Cross Country, Natalie Chapman, Regional Policy Manager London,
South East and East of England for Freight Transport Association, Andy Mak,
Planning Manager at South East England Regional Assembly and David Lees,
Director of Planning and Development at Southampton International Airport .
22. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
There were no Declarations of Interest declared.
23. CHAIRMAN'S COMMUNICATIONS
Councillor Kendal reported that the Transport for South Hampshire Statement
`Towards Delivery' would be discussed at the meeting. This document has
captured the attention of the media since the ambitious plans are likely to impact
upon people in many parts of the sub-region. Articles in the Echo and the
Portsmouth News have mentioned Transport for South Hampshire and the
meetings are, of course, open to the public.
24. MINUTES OF THE MEETING HELD ON 8 JANUARY 2008
The Minutes of the Joint Committee held on 8 January 2008 were confirmed by
the Committee as amended and signed by the Chairman.
25. PRESENTATION ON SOUTH HAMPSHIRE BUS OPERATORS'
RICHARD SOPER
The Committee welcomed Richard Soper and Andrew Dyer to the meeting to give
a presentation on behalf of the bus operators in the sub-region. Richard gave a
brief overview of the current scene and the challenges and opportunities ahead.
He noted that the bus operators in the area employ 1,400 people and operate 640
buses. He outlined the role of the bus, noting that the sub region is very well
served with bus services, most of which are commercial and stand comparison
with any city region with fares no higher than in council operated networks.
He felt that buses should be regarded as much more than a `social service'.
However, without a change of attitude and action buses will get progressively less
attractive because of the relentless pressure for road space from other vehicles.
Richard considered that consultants and officers have analysed problems clearly
in producing the Statement and there is a key role for road based public transport.
He advised that it was important to build on the existing established relationships
and that it would take courage in the years ahead. He felt that people do not use
buses where they have a choice and the reasons are due to convenience,
unreliability and image. These issues needed to be addressed and buses prioritised
to provide a better and more efficient service, with investment in vehicles and
infrastructure offering benefits in image and environmental with an improved
experience. He considered that part of vision for Transport for South Hampshire
could be ` to create the conditions in which public transport is able to grow' and
`to encourage a dynamic market within public transport'.
The Chairman thanked Richard Soper on behalf of the Committee for his
interesting presentation.
26. TRANSPORT FOR SOUTH HAMPSHIRE STATEMENT `TOWARDS
DELIVERY'
The Committee considered the report of the Hampshire Director of Environment
(Item 6 in the Minute Book) on the Transport for South Hampshire Statement
`Towards Delivery' to provide the basis of the transport strategy and packages
of interventions required to deliver the growth agenda.
The Project Director described the transport strategy set out in the statement and
summarised the work that had been carried out leading to its publication. The
statement sets out the critical steps, to raise the economic competitiveness of the
sub-region and deliver the growth with Partnership for Urban South Hampshire,
by means of the reduce-manage-invest strategy, which is in line with the
Government's recently published discussion paper `Towards a Sustainable
Tranpsort System'.
Councillor Baston on behalf of Southampton City Council and Councillor Bentley
on behalf of Portsmouth City Council welcomed the paper as a working document
to process transport needs and accessibility.
The Head of Planning Services, Portsmouth City Council reported that the new
core strategies and the local development framework provided a consistent
message.
Paul Robinson from the Highways Agency and Neil Pearce from SEEDA
welcomed the useful statement of delivery and looked forward to working
together with the partnership.
In response to a question from Councillor Kendal about accurate traffic movement
figures, the Hampshire Head of Highways and Transport Policy advised that those
packages which stand the best prospects for funding have been assembled for
regional prioritisation from 2016, alongside other possible avenues for alternative
funding.
RESOLVED:
That the Transport for South Hampshire Statement `Towards Delivery' be
approved as the basis of the transport strategy and the packages of interventions
required in order to deliver the growth agenda.
27. CO-ORDINATED TRAFFIC CONTROL AND TRAVEL INFORMATION
The Committee considered the report of the Portsmouth Head of Transport and
Street Management (Item 7 in the Minute Book) on the interim conclusions of the
study into the merits and methods of closer working between those responsible for
traffic control and travel information in South Hampshire.
He advised that the interim results indicated promising capability in the process of
bringing about improvements.
Councillors Baston and Bentley agreed that it made sense to achieve integration
and logistical sense to proceed but retaining careful consideration of the costs.
RESOLVED:
(a) That the interim conclusion that there is merit in moving towards some form of integrated service delivery be approved.
(b) That the options identified in the report be approved for the purpose of setting the scope for future work.
28. TRANSPORT FOR SOUTH HAMPSHIRE BUDGET 2008/09
The Committee considered the report of the Hampshire Director of Environment
(Item 8 in the Minute Book) on the proposed revenue budget for 2008/09, taking
into account anticipated income from a variety of sources to enable the
partnership to proceed in delivering a number of strategies and studies, prior to
the design and implementation of a range of projects and schemes.
The Project Director advised that the Transport for South Hampshire partnership
needed to rely on funds from a variety of partners and the provisional budget of
£1.36m was based on anticipated commitments. A further recommendation as
set out at (c) was proposed by Portsmouth City Council Members and Officers.
RESOLVED:
(a) That the provisional Transport for South Hampshire Revenue Budget for
2008/09 be approved on the basis of information provided, notably the
anticipated level of contributions and awards from a variety of funding
sources.
(b) That the submission of Expressions of Interest for funding support for Bus
Rapid Transit and Tipner Link under the Government's Community
Infrastructure Fund be endorsed.
(c) That Transport for South Hampshire requests that the Regional Transport
Board should recognise the economic and other benefits that providing
improved access to the Portsmouth Naval Base via the Trafalgar Link Road
would deliver from a national, regional as well as local perspective and that it
be asked to receive a report from its officers on identifying ways that the
scheme could be funded.
29. MULTI AREA AGREEMENT
The Committee considered the report of the Hampshire Director of Environment
(Item 9 in the Minute Book) on emerging measures for the transport element of
the draft Partnership for Urban South Hampshire Multi Area Agreement, for
negotiation with Government and seeking authority for officers in consultation
with the Chairman to negotiate the final Multi Area Agreement with the
Government as part of the South Hampshire negotiating team.
The Manager for Transport for South Hampshire advised that the Multi Area
Agreement brought together agencies to support development and to overcome
transport constraints on economic growth by a variety of means. A range of
possible measures were described, which would need further discussion with
stakeholders before being submitted to Government.
Andrew Dyer from Hampshire Bus Operators expressed caution over change to
the financial model for bus service, in view of recent experiences with the national
concessionary travel scheme, requiring extra capacity to be provided in the face of
reduced reimbursement from Government.
RESOLVED:
(a) That, in principal, the outcomes and enabling measures, as set out in the report,
as the transport element of the draft Partnership for Urban South Hampshire
Multi Area Agreement be approved, for negotiation with the Government.
(b) That authority be given to officers, in consultation with the Chairman, to
negotiate the final Multi Area Agreement with the Government as part of the
Partnership for Urban South Hampshire negotiating team.
THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WERE SUBMITTED FOR INFORMATION
30. DEVELOPING THE EVIDENCE BASE
The Joint Committee noted the progress on assessing the transport data and
analysis tools required to provide a robust evidence base to enable the Transport
for South Hampshire strategy to be delivered.
31. INTEGRATED TRANSPORT AUTHORITY STATUS
The Joint Committee
(a) Authorised officers of the three respective authorities to continue to liaise with the
Department for Transport and the Government Office for the South East on the
potential advantages and disadvantages of Transport for South Hampshire seeking
Integrated Transport Authority status on a without prejudice basis.
(b) Agreed that Members visit a suitable Passenger Transport Executive/Authority
along with appropriate officers.