Archived decisions
AT A MEETING of the RIVER HAMBLE HARBOUR MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE
held at Warsash Sailing Club, Shore Road, Warsash on Friday 25 April 2008.
Also present:
Councillor J.V. Bryant, Chairman of the River Hamble Harbour Board.
155. APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE
Apologies for absence were received from Councillor D. R. Blampied as he is on County Council business, Mr J. Greensmith and Mr P. Holliday.
156. DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST
Members who believe they have a personal or personal prejudicial interest in any matter to be considered at the meeting must declare their personal interest and having regard to the circumstances described in 9, 10, 11 and 12 of the County Council's
Code of Conduct, consider whether to leave the meeting whilst the matter is discussed, save for exercising any right to speak in accordance with paragraph 12 of the Code.
The declaration should be made at the time of the relevant debate.
Councillor S. D. T. Woodward declared a personal interest by virtue of being a berth holder in Swanwick Marina.
Councillor Mrs C. Sutton declared a personal interest as a Member of the Royal Southern Yacht Club and a mooring holder.
Councillor W. J. Pepper declared a personal interest in Item 13 due to being on Eastleigh Borough Council.
Councillor T. M. Cartwright and Mr D. Alexander declared a personal interest in Item 10 as Members of Warsash Sailing Club.
Mr D. Alexander declared a personal interest as a Member of the Warsash Sailing Club.
157. MINUTES
The minutes of the meeting of the Committee held on 4 January 2008 were confirmed as a correct record and signed by the Chairman.
158. CHAIRMAN'S COMMUNICATIONS
The Chairman reported receipt of a letter from Mr P. Knight, Commodore at Warsash Sailing Club expressing concerns about the Harbour Work Consents Application for the replacement of the dinghy pontoon and piles at Warsash Sailing Club. The Chairman advised that he and the Marine Director would reply direct to Mr Knight.
159. DEPUTATIONS
There were no deputations received.
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage
(Item 6 in the Minute Book) summarising activities, incidents and events on the River since on activities, incidents and events on the River since 31 January 2008.
The Harbour Master went through the report and answered any queries Members had regarding the incidents that had occurred and highlighted the following points.
Paragraph 4.8 - it was noted that the pontoons had been regularly checked over the last 5 years, an audit had been carried out and they had been replaced where necessary.
Paragraph 4.24 -it was noted that further information had been requested about the collision between the motor yacht and the moored vessel. The Royal Yachting Association was investigating the method used by the instructor and the Marine Accident Investigation Branch had been provided with a report of the incident by the Harbour Master. A Member expressed concern that it was a worrying trend that there were inexperienced sailors on the River. The Harbour Master commented that the Royal Yachting Association would prefer boat owners to obtain training and qualifications voluntarily, rather than introducing legislation. Mr Alexander advised that there was no evidence to show that novice sailors were causing accidents.
In connection with Paragraph 5.1, the Committee asked that a letter of thanks be sent to the Mr Jamie Williams, Assistant Harbour Master (Patrol) expressing their appreciation of his work and a letter welcoming Mr Brett Winslade in his new post as Mr William's replacement.
In relation to the supplementary report circulated at the meeting and in particular to paragraph 1.4, the Harbour Master reported that nearly all of the fuel was recovered.
Paragraph 3.1 - it was noted that River users were having difficulty in identifying the navigation light on plie C10 upstream of the Hamble Jetty. The Harbour Master advised that a new light will shortly be installed replacing the current light and providing a light of greater intensity. The greater intensity of the new light will assist River users in identifying the light from the background clutter of other lights.
The Harbour Master informed the meeting that he had been working with the Harbour Master of Southampton and had also gained consent from Trinity House to establish a navigation light on the buoy at Bald Head. It is hoped that the light will assist matters in the approach to the River Hamble and possibly assist matters in crossing Southampton Water at that point.
The Committee asked that the Harbour Authority's website include a link to the Management Committee's reports to make the reports more widely available.
RESOLVED:
That the report be noted.
161. MARINE DIRECTOR'S CURRENT ISSUES
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage
(Item 7 in the Minute Book) highlighting current issues relating to the management of the Harbour Authority.
The Marine Director reported that all questions had been answered in relation to the
Freedom of Information requests received about Harbour Dues. In response to a question about the costs associated with River Hamble Officer time spent on Freedom of Information requests, the Marine Director advised that a record had been kept of all time by officers - 170 hours at a total cost of £7,000.
In connection with the Crown Estate Management Agreement, the Marine Director advised that there had been minimal changes to the Agreement which had been signed and returned to The Crown Estate.
In respect of the Crown Estate Lease, the Marine Director advised that there was now one collective lease covering all 4 sites (Warsash Jetty, Fishermen's Jetty, Visitor's Pontoon and Hamble Jetty) rather than individual ones.
The Marine Director advised that the draft Marine Bill had been published for consultation and that there was noting in it which would cause difficulties for the Harbour Authority and would not therefore be responding to the consultation.
RESOLVED:
That the report be noted.
162. ENVIRONMENTAL UPDATE
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage
(Item 8 in the Minute Book) summarising the activities and events relating to the environment of the River from November 2007.
The Harbour Master reported that in connection with the Recycling Scheme, the volunteers' first blog on the website was awaited. MDL Marinas have now completed their trial with Eastleigh Borough Council. Premier Marinas have adopted a corporate approach to recycling in all their marinas. Both Eastleigh Borough Council and Fareham Borough Council have been working together with other marinas and boatyards on the River to put similar arrangements in place. A leaflet was currently being drafted to ensure that all River users were aware of the Recycling scheme.
Councillor Ellis advised that he had recently attended a Police conference on Project Kraken and felt that it was worthwhile. The Marine Director advised that details on Project Kraken could be found on the Harbour Authority's website.
RESOLVED:
That the report be noted.
163. ANNUAL FORUM 2008
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage (Item
9 in the Minute Book) providing a note of the proceedings of the River Hamble
Harbour Authority Annual forum held on 25 March 2008. The Marine Director
reported that he had written to Mr John Mitchell concerning the administration fee
payable to yacht clubs and marinas in return for collecting Harbour Dues on behalf of
the Harbour Authority.
The Marine Director also reported that following the Annual Forum Councillor
Swanbrow had investigated the issues with boat trailers. Councillor Swanbrow had
entered into negotiations with Fareham Borough Council in an effort to identify places
to park trailers in Warsash. The Marine Director pointed out that a suitable site for 12-
20 trailers was all that was required and the option of parking trailers off-site was
attractive.
RESOLVED:
That the Appendix to the report be noted and submitted to the Harbour Board for
consideration.
164. HARBOURS WORK CONSENTS APPLICATION : REPLACEMENT OF
DINGHY PONTOON AND PILES, WARSASH SAILING CLUB
Councillor T. M. Cartwright and Mr D. Alexander left the meeting whilst this item was
being considered.
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage (Item
10 in the Minute Book) to replace and enlarge the ageing dinghy pontoon and
associated piles at Warsash Sailing Club, Shore Road, Warsash. The Marine Director
pointed out that he had taken legal advice around the condition to be imposed upon
Warsash Sailing Club that all their Members must have a valid Harbour Dues sticker -
the payment of Harbour Dues is a legal requirement so the condition was valid and
reasonable and that a similar condition had been imposed on works consent applications
elsewhere in the River. He also explained that arresting and detaining a boat on dry land
is impossible so the arrest needs to take place when the boat is afloat. Boats could be
detained pending payment of the Harbour Dues and if not paid the boat could be sold to
recover the Dues owing. In discussion some Members felt that the Club should be
required to `advise their members of the requirement to pay Dues' whilst other
Members were in favour of the condition as drafted.
RESOLVED:
That the River Hamble Harbour Board be advised as follows:
That conditional consent for harbour works be granted for the proposed development as
shown on the plans Sol-2174-SC01, Sol-2174-SC03-000, Sol-2174 - SC2174-000, as
attached at Appendix A to the report with the following conditions:
(a) That all other required consents must be in place with copies of such consents
supplied to the Harbour Authority prior to the commencement of works.
(b) That all piling will be undertaken by a non-percussive, low impact method, such as
vibro-piling, to minimise the environmental impact. Approval for any piling must
be sought from the Environment Agency and Natural England due to strict timing
restrictions.
(c) That no boat or dinghy to be moored or launched from the pontoon unless a current
Harbour Dues sticker is displayed on the boat or dinghy. Harbour Dues will be
payable at the daily rate or annual rate for any boat launched or moored on the
pontoon.
(d) That Warsash Sailing Club own the risk of small boats launching from the jetty and
in order to help them manage the risk, Warsash Sailing Club are required to affix an
appropriately worded sign warning their Members of the possible dangers during
adverse weather conditions. The wording for the sign is to be agreed with the
Harbour Master, as detailed in the risk assessment set out in Appendix B to the
Report.
(e) That a method statement for the works (both pontoon replacement and replacing the
piles) should be supplied to the Harbour Authority for approval prior to works
starting.
(f) That a safety ladder and appropriate lifesaving equipment should be included in the
plans.
165. HARBOURS WORK CONSENTS APPLICATION : BANK STABILISATION
AND FLOOD DEFENCE AT EASTLANDS BOATYARD
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage (Item
11 in the Minute Book) on Harbour Work Consents application to raise the seaward
edge of the car parks and stabilise the bank by the construction of a timber sleeper retaining the wall at Eastlands Boatyard, Coal Park Lane, Swanwick.
RESOLVED:
That the River Hamble Harbour Board be advised as follows:
That conditional consent for harbour works be granted as detailed in drawings 8790/7 and 8790/8, as attached to Appendix A with the following conditions:
(a) That all other required consents must be in place with copies of such consents
supplied to the Harbour Authority prior to the commencement of the works
(b) That works will only be permitted to be undertaken during the period 1 April to
30 September.
(c) That all piling will be undertaken by using vibro-piling to minimise the
environmental impact.
(d) That all works be undertaken from the landward side with no impact on the Site of
Importance of Nature Conservation (SINC) or Biodiversity Action Plan (BAP) habitat.
(e) That to insure there is no impact to the SINC or BAP habitat during the construction
phase of the proposed project regular inspections will be undertaken. Should there
be evidence of damage consideration will be given for withdrawal of consent.
166. HARBOURS WORK CONSENTS APPLICATION : ADDITIONAL PONTOON
AND BERTHING AT EASTLANDS BOATYARD
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage (Item
12 in the Minute Book) on Harbour Work Consents application to construct an
additional 118 metre pontoon for 20 boats inshore of the existing pontooning at
Eastlands Boatyard, Coal Park Lane, Swanwick.
RESOLVED:
That the River Hamble Harbour Board be advised as follows:
That the application for harbour works consent be refused on the grounds that the
applicant has failed to adequately assess the impacts of the proposal on the
environment.
167. HARBOURS WORK CONSENTS APPLICATION : MYRTLE COTTAGE
PONTOON AND ACCESS BRIDGE
The Committee considered the report of the Director of Recreation and Heritage (Item
13 in the Minute Book) on the Harbour Work Consents application for a proposed
pontoon with access bridge to be installed adjacent to Myrtle Cottage, a dwelling on the
western bank of the River Hmable at Lands End, Bursledon. In response to a question about boats mooring side by side, the Harbour Master advised that this requirement would be incorporated into the consent.
RESOLVED:
That the River Hamble Harbour Board be advised as follows:
That conditional consent for harbour works be granted for the installation of a mooring pontoon at Myrtle Cottage, increasing the number of moorings in the River by one, as shown on the drawings 8813/2, as attached to Appendix A of the report with the following conditions:
(a) That all other required consents must be in place with copies of such consents
supplied to the Harbour Authority prior to the commencement of the works.
(b) That the agreed environmental compensation will be completed prior to the
installation. This work will be undertaken and paid for by the applicant prior to the
construction of the pontoon.
(c) That the pontoon is to be no longer than 12 metres by 3 metres and the seaward edge
to be located no further out than shown on the drawing.
(d) That all piling will be undertaken by vibro-hammer to minimise the environmental
impact.
(e) That Harbour Dues will be payable at the annual rate for any boat moored on the
pontoon.